HBA somehow got involved in Ed's frameup for the murder of someone named Gandalf(?), who I think is really Fuzzy Bunyip, but no matter. Ed told HBA Eileen would know if Oz was trying to frame Ed. She did not think so. She thinks that if Oz wanted to harm Ed he would simply kill him with a car bomb.
In the process of discussing all this, she got to see HBA's cave, which she liked except for the octopus, which she says is ookie.